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BigAl55
Noticed that Central got some votes in last weeks 4A poll. After last Fridays game, I have to wonder. Are they that bad or is Mater Dei that good?
Transplanted Panther
From what I have been hearing, MD is THAT GOOD!!! Huge line, Hess has been a beast in the first two games, and Mauer has really been impressive.

I don't believe it, but I have some friends that are saying that if Reitz and MD played right now, MD would win, but they are not so sure MD would win come the end of the season when they play because of the number of players that play both ways for MD, and the beating they will take over the course of the season, as well as the players that will be coming back for us in the next week or two.

MD is for real this year. Last game of the season may very well be for city and SIAC this year.
Foghorn
Central has some excellent skilled players but their line is as soft as Charmin. Their QB spiked the ball at the line after the play and was yelling at his line like i have never seen a HS QB do. He had no time to do anything, but yelling at your line isnt going to fix anything.

#4...justin williams ( i think) is very fast and a very good football player.

All we have to do is get after the QB and they will fall apart just like they did with MD.

MD is big and a very good football team, didnt really see anybody that stood out but they are all clicking together right now.

If we played them now, we still win...no doubt.


I think when we play them it will be for city and SIAC.
Transplanted Panther
Sorry. Forgot to mention Wahl, the 250 lb RB that they have. A lot of people have been singing his praises. I think it will be a fun game this year, although, I wouldn't mind seeing that 4th straight shutout. LOL.
Foghorn
#35 or #32 cody hess (i think) is the best runnign back they have IMO.
ReitzPanther2
Reitz vs Central....NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!
westside club
QUOTE (ReitzPanther2 @ Aug 30 2010, 02:50 PM) *
Reitz vs Central....NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!



From the MD roster

Luke Hassler 6'7 275
Luke Olivia 6'0 275
Justin Van Winkle 6'3 240
Tom Johnson 6'0 220
Bernie Boots 6'5 250
Andrew Wahl 6'3 245
Nathan Wright 5'10 230
Trevor Fleck 5'10 245

these are the o and d line. I know Iwill get beat by you guys for saying this, but MD has in my opinion is the best O and D line in the city.

Hess is 5'8 190 pound rb and is very good and Dalton Brandenstein 6'0 180 wr beat Dyris Haywood a couple times. Hunter Owen is suposed to be one of the fastest kids in the city. Thats just what I've been told by MD people. MD people think this team is the best they've had in a long time.

I think if Reitz has Dimmett it is a two td game, but without Dimmett I'm afraid MD's timing routs would be tough to stop. I think if MD and Reitz would play today it would be a coin flip. MD is down their best player again this year so that helps.

I still like the play of Vaughn and I feel when Dimmett gets back we will be back on top by a notch or two.
westsidereitz
QUOTE (westside club @ Aug 30 2010, 03:54 PM) *
From the MD roster

Luke Hassler 6'7 275
Luke Olivia 6'0 275
Justin Van Winkle 6'3 240
Tom Johnson 6'0 220
Bernie Boots 6'5 250
Andrew Wahl 6'3 245
Nathan Wright 5'10 230
Trevor Fleck 5'10 245

these are the o and d line. I know Iwill get beat by you guys for saying this, but MD has in my opinion is the best O and D line in the city.

Hess is 5'8 190 pound rb and is very good and Dalton Brandenstein 6'0 180 wr beat Dyris Haywood a couple times. Hunter Owen is suposed to be one of the fastest kids in the city. Thats just what I've been told by MD people. MD people think this team is the best they've had in a long time.

I think if Reitz has Dimmett it is a two td game, but without Dimmett I'm afraid MD's timing routs would be tough to stop. I think if MD and Reitz would play today it would be a coin flip. MD is down their best player again this year so that helps.

I still like the play of Vaughn and I feel when Dimmett gets back we will be back on top by a notch or two.


.. or three with a healthy Reitz team .. even with the current starters + Dimmett = NoBrainer! Hess is overrated!!! Maurer is no Schiff!!! .. and Brandenstein is fast! I like R chances!!!
westsidereitz
QUOTE (westsidereitz @ Aug 30 2010, 05:05 PM) *
.. or three with a healthy Reitz team .. even with the current starters + Dimmett = NoBrainer! Hess is overrated!!! Maurer is no Schiff!!! .. and Brandenstein is fast! I like R chances!!!


Let me clarify. The above statement was in regards to any comparison to Reitz! In 2A .. in general, different story. biggrin.gif (maybe I won't get as much hate mail now ............. )
westside club
QUOTE (westsidereitz @ Aug 30 2010, 05:44 PM) *
Let me clarify. The above statement was in regards to any comparison to Reitz! In 2A .. in general, different story. biggrin.gif (maybe I won't get as much hate mail now ............. )



If you didn't go to the mater dei central game this weekend you wouldn't know. Dane Maurer is the most improved qb in the siac. And I'd take Hess over Taylor Day or Tyreece Strong any day of the week. He doesn't have 4.5 speed like Vaughn, but he has good balance and great vision. Mater Dei is very good, don't count them out. Everybody who knows football is saying this years MD team is the team to beat in the siac(besides Reitz).
Transplanted Panther
Sorry, but Martin was not the best player on their team this year. I highly doubt that Martin would have been starting at QB this year. Maurer is a much better QB. Of course, it really hasn't matter what the name of the quarterback was that MD put on the field the past three years. The total score of those games was 119-0. I want to see a fourth straight shutout so that one entire class can say I went to MD for 4 years, and our football team did not score a point on Reitz.
bgrocker
I witnesssed the MD Central game and Centrel gave them all they wanted until the 4th quarter(even gave them a TD instead of a safety ).

Would not be surprised to see a MD blowout of Memorial.

MD is slow as the syrup we use on our pancake breakfasts at Mcdonalds.

And, I bet we are as healthy as ever by that game(Dimmett, Harris, Newhouse,Balbach and Smith)

Like to see another area team beat two quality teams without these guys plus Kemp was out the last two series(good luck pussycats and the princess from O'boro in the rest of your seasons)
westside club
QUOTE (bgrocker @ Aug 30 2010, 07:15 PM) *
I witnesssed the MD Central game and Centrel gave them all they wanted until the 4th quarter(even gave them a TD instead of a safety ).

Would not be surprised to see a MD blowout of Memorial.

MD is slow as the syrup we use on our pancake breakfasts at Mcdonalds.

And, I bet we are as healthy as ever by that game(Dimmett, Harris, Newhouse,Balbach and Smith)

Like to see another area team beat two quality teams without these guys plus Kemp was out the last two series(good luck pussycats and the princess from O'boro in the rest of your seasons)



I hope that the players don't think like this. I know a ref in town who told me Sunday night that MD is the best team in the siac. I'm just saying if your saying this because of last years score your going to be in for a rude awakening. I don't care how slow you are, if the timimg routs are perfect as D you can't do anything to stop that. Thats what make the spread O so good. When Reitz put 5 guys out wide last year Reitz couldn't be stopped.
ReitzPanther2
QUOTE (westside club @ Aug 30 2010, 03:54 PM) *
From the MD roster

Luke Hassler 6'7 275
Luke Olivia 6'0 275
Justin Van Winkle 6'3 240
Tom Johnson 6'0 220
Bernie Boots 6'5 250
Andrew Wahl 6'3 245
Nathan Wright 5'10 230
Trevor Fleck 5'10 245

these are the o and d line. I know Iwill get beat by you guys for saying this, but MD has in my opinion is the best O and D line in the city.

Hess is 5'8 190 pound rb and is very good and Dalton Brandenstein 6'0 180 wr beat Dyris Haywood a couple times. Hunter Owen is suposed to be one of the fastest kids in the city. Thats just what I've been told by MD people. MD people think this team is the best they've had in a long time.

I think if Reitz has Dimmett it is a two td game, but without Dimmett I'm afraid MD's timing routs would be tough to stop. I think if MD and Reitz would play today it would be a coin flip. MD is down their best player again this year so that helps.

I still like the play of Vaughn and I feel when Dimmett gets back we will be back on top by a notch or two.


Seems odd you would quote me...then talk up MD....I believe what i said was "REITZ VS. CENTRAL...NOT EVEN CLOSE!"

Not MD not North...not Bosse.......CENTRAL
westside club
QUOTE (ReitzPanther2 @ Aug 30 2010, 09:18 PM) *
Seems odd you would quote me...then talk up MD....I believe what i said was "REITZ VS. CENTRAL...NOT EVEN CLOSE!"

Not MD not North...not Bosse.......CENTRAL


If you read all the post above you will see that I am not the one who brought up MD. I just don't want anybody getting over confident. A lot can change in a year trust me. Its good to stay grounded, and that goes for the fans also.
Transplanted Panther
Yes, someone asked, and I answered. Nothing wrong with that. Never talked them up though. Thanks for playing.

Westside club, are you one in the same with siac grad on the GID? Same mannerisms, same start up dates. Please put my mind at ease.
RHSLB0203
I personally cannot jump on the MD bandwaggon just yet, I was at the game and I'll tell you what I saw personally. I saw central come out very strong and score on the opening drive. and then after nerves settled, it got ugly.

I saw a broken central coverage go like 20 yds behind the safety for 7 on 3rd n long
I saw an interception turn into 3 from 23 yrds out. (couldnt punch it it)
I saw another broken coverage go for 7 right be for half time. you could call it a great pass, b/c it was. but would Cuda/Matt been there to knock that down? time will tell
I saw MD get a great call on the Punt to the 1 yd line on a ball that looked like it crossed the plane to set up a pic 6 from the 1yd line. Would matt make that throw while getting sacked into the hands of a defender for 6? doubt it but thats just me....
then I saw Central give up and MD punch another one in late after it was over at 31-14 making it 38-14.. the game was closer than indicated. If central plays defense (RHS will be MUCH better) before half time you go in 17-14.. but instead 24-14 b/c of a coverage lapse.

Yes MD looked good. Yes they capitalized on mistakes... Yes they won big over what I'll call an overrated central team.....

If if's and but's were candy and nuts... I know...

But I'll be impressed when they're sitting 8-0 playing for the City, SIAC, and WSNC titles all on the line. and only then will i get back on that waggon. Long season ahead...

AND NO MD WOULD NOT BEAT US RIGHT NOW, in fact i'd see them struggling with Henderson Co...... 21-0 first 6 minutes of Owensboro game... Thats our potential... and Owensboro is bigger than MD, I went to both friday and saturday. MD is bigger than normal. but nothing that Jon lidy didnt put us to the test with in the Everhart days... Lets hope for a good ol' 8-0 vs 8-0 at the end. smile.gif
westside club
QUOTE (Transplanted Panther @ Aug 31 2010, 01:10 PM) *
Yes, someone asked, and I answered. Nothing wrong with that. Never talked them up though. Thanks for playing.

Westside club, are you one in the same with siac grad on the GID? Same mannerisms, same start up dates. Please put my mind at ease.



No to the first question


The fact that a lot of us do not respect some of our oponents is scary. I can tell you from what I saw Friday night Mater Dei looked very good. I'm not saying they will beat Reitz I am simply saying that we need to stay humble. Central is the type of team, if they play hard and don't make a lot of stupid mistakes they can be a dangerous team. I respect Mater Dei this year. I have several people that are very close to the program, and they feel this is their best team in a long time. These guys last year told me Mater Dei was awful and they were correct. I trust these guys. In fact one of them has been on the sidlelines since the late 90s at Mater Dei. They don't think they will beat, Reitz and neither do I. All I'm saying is we need to respect our opponents.
Transplanted Panther
QUOTE (westside club @ Aug 31 2010, 02:17 PM) *
No to the first question


The fact that a lot of us do not respect some of our oponents is scary. I can tell you from what I saw Friday night Mater Dei looked very good. I'm not saying they will beat Reitz I am simply saying that we need to stay humble. Central is the type of team, if they play hard and don't make a lot of stupid mistakes they can be a dangerous team. I respect Mater Dei this year. I have several people that are very close to the program, and they feel this is their best team in a long time. These guys last year told me Mater Dei was awful and they were correct. I trust these guys. In fact one of them has been on the sidlelines since the late 90s at Mater Dei. They don't think they will beat, Reitz and neither do I. All I'm saying is we need to respect our opponents.


Thank you for the answer. Thing is, he talked up Central and was all about their speed even though everyone else was telling him that their line was extremely soft and if someone were to punch them in the nose, they would fold. They proved that Friday in playing MD. I give MD all the credit in the world. They are good. I still don't see them beating Reitz. Doesn't mean that I am not humble, or that I do not respect them, or anyone else. Just stating facts. Central is soft. MD proved that. MD is good. They beat Central for the first time in 4 years. Those are facts. I will not bash another team, and I expect the same for my team (although, that usually doesn't happen.)

Now, with that said, I do hope that we come out and shut out MD in our game this year, but a win is a win, and if they shut them out or give up points do not matter, as long as we get the win. But, that game is still 7 weeks away. Right now, the focus needs to be on Central, and Central only. Lets just leave things at that.
westside club
QUOTE (Transplanted Panther @ Aug 31 2010, 03:13 PM) *
Thank you for the answer. Thing is, he talked up Central and was all about their speed even though everyone else was telling him that their line was extremely soft and if someone were to punch them in the nose, they would fold. They proved that Friday in playing MD. I give MD all the credit in the world. They are good. I still don't see them beating Reitz. Doesn't mean that I am not humble, or that I do not respect them, or anyone else. Just stating facts. Central is soft. MD proved that. MD is good. They beat Central for the first time in 4 years. Those are facts. I will not bash another team, and I expect the same for my team (although, that usually doesn't happen.)

Now, with that said, I do hope that we come out and shut out MD in our game this year, but a win is a win, and if they shut them out or give up points do not matter, as long as we get the win. But, that game is still 7 weeks away. Right now, the focus needs to be on Central, and Central only. Lets just leave things at that.



I wasn't really talking about you so much. I just don't want us to believe everything we read about us on c/p or anywhere. Reitz has the talent to beat anybody and everybody they play. You just can't overlook anybody. I remember when Harrison was undefeated, beat Ben Davis and lost to North in a sectional game in 1998. I believe that Harrison team was ranked number 1 in the state. North scored twice with less then two min in the game to win. I also remember some very good Castle teams getting beat by some westsiders in the early 00's! My point is don't ever overlook anybody. In high school football anything can happen trust me!
Transplanted Panther
I seem to remember one of those Castle teams in the early 2000s not exactly overlooking us. They wanted to act like they were at their place and came to mid field and stomped on the R, giving the boys that little extra "incentive" in that game, after beating us in the bowl big earlier in the season.

Overlooking teams is something that Reitz has not done in a long time. I don't think we will be doing that any time soon.
ReitzPanther2
QUOTE (westside club @ Aug 31 2010, 04:06 PM) *
I wasn't really talking about you so much. I just don't want us to believe everything we read about us on c/p or anywhere. Reitz has the talent to beat anybody and everybody they play. You just can't overlook anybody. I remember when Harrison was undefeated, beat Ben Davis and lost to North in a sectional game in 1998. I believe that Harrison team was ranked number 1 in the state. North scored twice with less then two min in the game to win. I also remember some very good Castle teams getting beat by some westsiders in the early 00's! My point is don't ever overlook anybody. In high school football anything can happen trust me!


Maybe in the last Century of football you havent realized a very important factor...."There is Reitz football....then everyone else"

We absolutly respect every team we play...

BUT...untill something changes and Central proves they cant/wont give up. People and not just Reitz fans will always think about them the way we do now. "When times get tough...best rollover and let it go"
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