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Foghorn
I have noticed that several teams put there all time leading rusher, passer, receiver...etc in their programs. Is there a reason we don't? I think it would be interesting to read and im sure others woulds as well.
85BlueandGray
Not sure why.

On a related topic:

Long time Big Blue Booster and loyal Reitz fan Richard "Dick" Hettenbach passed away Tuesday night. The announcement is in the C&P today. Dick was a wonderful man and will be missed very much by all. His Grandson plays varsity football.
ReitzPanther2
QUOTE (85BlueandGray @ Aug 26 2010, 12:12 PM) *
Not sure why.

On a related topic:

Long time Big Blue Booster and loyal Reitz fan Richard "Dick" Hettenbach passed away Tuesday night. The announcement is in the C&P today. Dick was a wonderful man and will be missed very much by all. His Grandson plays varsity football.


Sad to hear. Will be praying for his family.
Valhalla
QUOTE (Foghorn @ Aug 26 2010, 05:05 AM) *
I have noticed that several teams put there all time leading rusher, passer, receiver...etc in their programs. Is there a reason we don't? I think it would be interesting to read and im sure others woulds as well.


The main reason the Big Blue Boosters don't list the Reitz all-time stat leaders (like leading passer, rusher, receiver, scorer, etc.) is no one knows who they are. Unfortunately, no one bothered to keep accurate stat records until Tom Guinn joined the program in the early 90s. It's a good bet Ricky Crider is the all-time leading rusher in Reitz history, but I don't think anyone knows leading all-time passer, receiver, etc. It's a real shame, and almost unbelievable, that in a storied program like Reitz no one every bothered with these things.
ReitzPanther2
QUOTE (Valhalla @ Aug 29 2010, 09:36 PM) *
The main reason the Big Blue Boosters don't list the Reitz all-time stat leaders (like leading passer, rusher, receiver, scorer, etc.) is no one knows who they are. Unfortunately, no one bothered to keep accurate stat records until Tom Guinn joined the program in the early 90s. It's a good bet Ricky Crider is the all-time leading rusher in Reitz history, but I don't think anyone knows leading all-time passer, receiver, etc. It's a real shame, and almost unbelievable, that in a storied program like Reitz no one every bothered with these things.


It would be a huge undertaking but im sure it could be done. Maybe the newspapers kept stats like that idk
ReitzFootball.com
QUOTE (ReitzPanther2 @ Aug 29 2010, 10:23 PM) *
It would be a huge undertaking but im sure it could be done. Maybe the newspapers kept stats like that idk


It's something I would love to have on the site, as well. The papers listed that most of the time...so like you said...it would be a huge undertaking, but maybe one day we can have that info.

Rudy
ReitzPanther2
QUOTE (ReitzFootball.com @ Aug 30 2010, 12:33 AM) *
It's something I would love to have on the site, as well. The papers listed that most of the time...so like you said...it would be a huge undertaking, but maybe one day we can have that info.

Rudy


I would be happy to help tongue.gif
Foghorn
QUOTE (Valhalla @ Aug 29 2010, 09:36 PM) *
The main reason the Big Blue Boosters don't list the Reitz all-time stat leaders (like leading passer, rusher, receiver, scorer, etc.) is no one knows who they are. Unfortunately, no one bothered to keep accurate stat records until Tom Guinn joined the program in the early 90s. It's a good bet Ricky Crider is the all-time leading rusher in Reitz history, but I don't think anyone knows leading all-time passer, receiver, etc. It's a real shame, and almost unbelievable, that in a storied program like Reitz no one every bothered with these things.


I understand that but why cant we have leaders from the early 90s on posted. I know it isn't a true list and should be qualified as that if it were to be put in the program but something is better than nothing...IMO.
nwsecond2
QUOTE (ReitzFootball.com @ Aug 30 2010, 12:33 AM) *
It's something I would love to have on the site, as well. The papers listed that most of the time...so like you said...it would be a huge undertaking, but maybe one day we can have that info.

Rudy

Today's newspapers don't even have the full individual stats listed. (i.e. how many rush yds has McRae had either game?) The leading rusher or leading receiver is often listed in the body of an article, but you can't compile accurate lists without having full individual stats and that would include players who weren't always the leaders in every game they played. Someone could've played in around 50 games during their Reitz career and it would be a shame if someone took on the undertaking and could only locate 45 of their games' stats but you couldn't just guess at the other 5 and thus it wouldn't be highly accurate. I think you'd have to hope you'd find info by going through some Reitz archives as I don't think the newspapers would be complete enough to be reliable.
ReitzFootball.com
QUOTE (Foghorn @ Aug 30 2010, 08:11 AM) *
I understand that but why cant we have leaders from the early 90s on posted. I know it isn't a true list and should be qualified as that if it were to be put in the program but something is better than nothing...IMO.


I hear you. I had compiled such a list about 7-8 years ago but unfortunately let it slide and it now sits on a file of the old website, un-updated. Maybe getting all that updated as much as possible would be a good project to tackle next! smile.gif

Rudy
Foghorn
QUOTE (ReitzFootball.com @ Aug 30 2010, 09:47 AM) *
I hear you. I had compiled such a list about 7-8 years ago but unfortunately let it slide and it now sits on a file of the old website, un-updated. Maybe getting all that updated as much as possible would be a good project to tackle next! smile.gif

Rudy


Are you gona be posting the game stats again this year?
ReitzFootball.com
QUOTE (Foghorn @ Aug 30 2010, 09:07 AM) *
Are you gona be posting the game stats again this year?


Yes! I will have those up later today.

By the way, big thanks to Tom "Hawk" Guinn and Larry Ellington for compiling the stats each and every week for the Mighty Panthers! You guys are awesome!

Daniel "Rudy" Engler
Foghorn
QUOTE (ReitzFootball.com @ Aug 30 2010, 01:56 PM) *
Yes! I will have those up later today.

By the way, big thanks to Tom "Hawk" Guinn and Larry Ellington for compiling the stats each and every week for the Mighty Panthers! You guys are awesome!

Daniel "Rudy" Engler


Awesome! Yes, a big thanks to Tom and Larry.
ReitzFootball.com
QUOTE (Foghorn @ Aug 30 2010, 01:06 PM) *
Awesome! Yes, a big thanks to Tom and Larry.


Here are some links of interest:



Rudy
Bigbluefan
I would be willing to bet that Matt Mcintosh will be the all-time passing leader by year end. Crider is the all time rushing leader in the City and SIAC. Receiving leader may be a bit tricky but Jeff Hudson has to be up near the top since he played 3+ seasons of varsity. The older dudes on this site may have some knowledge but I bet there wasn't alot of passing going on pre 1970 with the single wing offense.
ReitzPanther2
QUOTE (Bigbluefan @ Aug 30 2010, 09:19 PM) *
I would be willing to bet that Matt Mcintosh will be the all-time passing leader by year end. Crider is the all time rushing leader in the City and SIAC. Receiving leader may be a bit tricky but Jeff Hudson has to be up near the top since he played 3+ seasons of varsity. The older dudes on this site may have some knowledge but I bet there wasn't alot of passing going on pre 1970 with the single wing offense.


I would be willing to throw Andy Kissel in there for receiving yards
Lt.Clark
QUOTE (Foghorn @ Aug 26 2010, 05:05 AM) *
I have noticed that several teams put there all time leading rusher, passer, receiver...etc in their programs. Is there a reason we don't? I think it would be interesting to read and im sure others woulds as well.

I agree Foghorn. I'd love to see those stats too. Unfortunately, even going through the Evansville newspapers won't provide individual stats by game. You may find (for several years when Dan Schism (sp) was the Sports Editor for the newspaper) they may have published some season summary (leader) stats. You may also find individual stats were a kid had an amazing stat which they include within the article.

For the most part, the paper published the game box score which just lists the team stats. Some 30 years ago, I spent some ungodly hours down at Central Library winding through the paper pulling out the box scores for all the Reitz games. These have subsequently been put into a database. In the Courier’s early years, they didn't publish what we know as the box score, but rather the writers would work all the team stats into the article itself. It was/is a time consuming task. There are about 7-10 years (1920's, 1930's timeframe) for which I need to finish my research.

I think across the years Reitz football has stressed the TEAM concept as opposed to any one individual. Perhaps that's a factor in why Reitz has such a winning football tradition.

In today's world, it's relatively easy to acquire stats and put them into a format which can be easily queried. I can tell you in a matter of seconds what our record is when we play on Wednesdays (0-5, and only scoring 1 TD in each game except 1 when we were shut out).

One source we may want to consider is contacting our living coaches. Who knows, they may have the stats stored in a box somewhere.

Lt.Clark
ReitzPanther2
QUOTE (Lt.Clark @ Sep 2 2010, 01:37 PM) *
I agree Foghorn. I'd love to see those stats too. Unfortunately, even going through the Evansville newspapers won't provide individual stats by game. You may find (for several years when Dan Schism (sp) was the Sports Editor for the newspaper) they may have published some season summary (leader) stats. You may also find individual stats were a kid had an amazing stat which they include within the article.

For the most part, the paper published the game box score which just lists the team stats. Some 30 years ago, I spent some ungodly hours down at Central Library winding through the paper pulling out the box scores for all the Reitz games. These have subsequently been put into a database. In the Courier’s early years, they didn't publish what we know as the box score, but rather the writers would work all the team stats into the article itself. It was/is a time consuming task. There are about 7-10 years (1920's, 1930's timeframe) for which I need to finish my research.

I think across the years Reitz football has stressed the TEAM concept as opposed to any one individual. Perhaps that's a factor in why Reitz has such a winning football tradition.

In today's world, it's relatively easy to acquire stats and put them into a format which can be easily queried. I can tell you in a matter of seconds what our record is when we play on Wednesdays (0-5, and only scoring 1 TD in each game except 1 when we were shut out).

One source we may want to consider is contacting our living coaches. Who knows, they may have the stats stored in a box somewhere.

Lt.Clark


There he is! Someone has been in hiding for awhile tongue.gif
PantherFan83
QUOTE (ReitzPanther2 @ Sep 2 2010, 03:31 PM) *
There he is! Someone has been in hiding for awhile tongue.gif

Not hiding, lurking.
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